Episode #231– Dr. Johanna Hartelius: Conversations with Barth on Preaching

Jason Micheli —  October 25, 2019 — 1 Comment

Dr. Johanna Hartelius, Professor of Rhetoric at the University of Texas: Austin, is working with Jason on an article on apocalyptic preaching and, for it, has recently read Will Willimon’s book Conversations with Barth on Preaching. She demanded, as she does, to talk about it with Jason for the podcast and refused, as she does, to find any of my responses to her questions satisfying.

Be on the lookout for our next podcast series hosted by Johanna Hartelius, You Are Not Accepted: Engaging Holiness with Hauerwas, where every other week Johanna will join Stanley Hauerwas and the podcast posse to discuss one of Stanley’s essays.

Speaking of Stanley, you can get your very own Stanley “Jesus is Lord and Everything Else is Bullshit” t-shirt from our online store. Go to www.crackersandgrapejuice.com and check it out.

Jason Micheli


One response to Episode #231– Dr. Johanna Hartelius: Conversations with Barth on Preaching

  1. I also left this comment at the Crackers and Grape Juice site, but I’m interested in your thoughts, so I’ll post it here, too. I just listened to Episode 231 on my way to work. Dr. Johanna is always great!

    During the segment where you and Johanna discuss her reading of Fleming Rutledge’s The Crucifixion…, Johanna asks, “How does [Rutledge] know any of this?” You ultimately land on “because the bible tells me so.”

    It’s almost too obvious to point out, but the answer is also: we know by “faith.” Orthodox theologian Vladamir Lossky says the following about the certainty that faith confers:

    “[F]aith is present in all walks, in all sciences of the human spirit, but as supposition, as working hypothesis: here the moment of faith remains burdened with an uncertainty which proof alone could clear. Christian faith, on the contrary, is adherence to a presence which confers certitude, in such a way that certitude, here is first… Knowledge is given to us by faith, that is to say, by our participatory adherence to the presence of Him Who reveals Himself. Faith is therefore not a psychological attitude, a mere fidelity. It is an ontological relationship between man and God…”

    I think it’s a great quote. “Knowledge is given to us by faith”, and Christian faith is presented as more than just the psychological attitude of the believer, his mere mental assent. It’s presented as an “ontological relationship”, which I think fits well with the definition of faith as “hypostasis/substance” as given in Hebrews 11. Lossky also assigns clear agency to God when he says that “certitude… is first”, conferred by Him Who reveals Himself.

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